| unsolvable Wrong in the archives? |
PuzzleLover
Kwon-Tom Obsessive
Puzzles: 1033
Best Total: 38m 17s | Posted - 2006.10.11 07:37:51
I've tried about 10 times to solved an archived Wrong (Fri. 21 Oct 2005) and keeping reaching the same contradiction. Could someone else check if that wrong is solvable? Thanks. |
procrastinator
Kwon-Tom Obsessive
Puzzles: 1083
Best Total: 12m 56s | Posted - 2006.10.11 08:09:47
Quote: Originally Posted by puzzlelover I've tried about 10 times to solved an archived Wrong (Fri. 21 Oct 2005) and keeping reaching the same contradiction. Could someone else check if that wrong is solvable? Thanks. |
Solved it, but it was a nightmare. But I cleared out the markings and solved it as a normal puzzle and it took me 15 minutes (without FP, obviously), so it might not actually be that hard if you treat it as a Wrong. |
foilman
Kwon-Tom Admin
Puzzles: 3405
Best Total: 24m 6s | Posted - 2006.10.11 08:26:24
Yes, I had a quick look in the database and it's definitely solvable! Only procrastinor and Jankonyex have solved it to date... (I had a quick go and failed...) |
astrokath
Kwon-Tom Obsessive
Puzzles: 3258
Best Total: 13m 42s | Posted - 2006.10.11 08:59:42
Quote: Originally Posted by foilman Yes, I had a quick look in the database and it's definitely solvable! Only procrastinor and Jankonyex have solved it to date... (I had a quick go and failed...) |
142 changes, 8mins 8s.
Nasty, nasty, nasty. |
chairman
Kwon-Tom Obsessive
Puzzles: 1397
Best Total: 17m 32s | Posted - 2006.10.11 09:15:47
I tried to solve it in the wrong sense, but did not manage. Then I 'solved' the regular version with in my mind the wrong substituted. So I have seen the solution, but I don't have any clue how to find it properly in the wrong sense. I leave it open. Maybe in al couple of months... |
foilman
Kwon-Tom Admin
Puzzles: 3405
Best Total: 24m 6s | Posted - 2006.10.11 09:29:20
Looking at the "number of changes required" column in the database, there are only 3 wrongs harder than that one!! And two of those are weekend ones...
The hardest wrong currently available, based on number of changes required, is the one for Saturday 8th October 2005.
And the hardest 10x10 wrong is some time in the future (more than a year away at least).
Last edited by foilman - 2006.10.11 09:31:06 |
procrastinator
Kwon-Tom Obsessive
Puzzles: 1083
Best Total: 12m 56s | Posted - 2006.10.11 16:27:59
Quote: Originally Posted by foilman
The hardest wrong currently available, based on number of changes required, is the one for Saturday 8th October 2005.
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18 minutes, again solving by erasing everything and treating it as a normal puzzle. |
PuzzleLover
Kwon-Tom Obsessive
Puzzles: 1033
Best Total: 38m 17s | Posted - 2006.10.12 07:12:59
That was a VERY hard mistake to find. I guess the Right had biased me toward that mistake. Thanks all for the checks. |
PuzzleLover
Kwon-Tom Obsessive
Puzzles: 1033
Best Total: 38m 17s | Posted - 2006.10.15 04:20:35
Quote: Originally Posted by foilman Looking at the "number of changes required" column in the database, there are only 3 wrongs harder than that one!! And two of those are weekend ones...
The hardest wrong currently available, based on number of changes required, is the one for Saturday 8th October 2005.
And the hardest 10x10 wrong is some time in the future (more than a year away at least). |
*** Puzzle Complete ***
Well done. Your total elapsed time was:-
18m 22s
The time hasn't been stored, as the puzzle is at least a week old.
Back when this puzzle was part of the weekly challenge, the best time recorded
was 18m 42s.
Do you want to go Kwon-Tom Wrong ?
Now to try the Wrong ...
*** Kwon-Tom Wrong Complete ***
Well done. You made 96 changes and your total elapsed time was:-
37m 22s
Yes, pretty hard.
Last edited by PuzzleLover - 2006.10.15 05:43:30 |
foilman
Kwon-Tom Admin
Puzzles: 3405
Best Total: 24m 6s | Posted - 2006.10.15 09:17:16
Quote: Originally Posted by puzzlelover The Right is not so bad, though it's hard to believe I beat the fastest stored time: |
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