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A couple of personal favourites. (Thursday, 7th December 2006)
procrastinator
Kwon-Tom Obsessive
Puzzles: 1083
Best Total: 12m 56s
Posted - 2006.12.07 08:17:41
I predict this will be the first Thursday under a minute. I did it twice in two minutes myself, but sadly the first time was wrong. We might be unlucky though, since there a couple of unusual patterns to find:



Actually, now that I look at it, I doubt most people will use the first pattern. The line on the left of the 2 is already there, so you could just count instead.
Last edited by procrastinator - 2006.12.07 08:25:26
Para
Kwon-Tom Obsessive
Puzzles: 1923
Best Total: 19m 28s
Posted - 2006.12.07 21:55:00
Didn't know the 3 2's was such a special pattern automatically used it without thinking about it. I derived by using the 1 in the corner but it seems it works without the 1 as well. But i agree it went really quickly. My fasted thursday time so far. Strangely not faster than my fastest friday time though.
chairman
Kwon-Tom Obsessive
Puzzles: 1397
Best Total: 17m 32s
Posted - 2006.12.08 00:34:16
Quote:
Originally Posted by procrastinator


I think this is rather a principle than a pattern. I recall a situation like this, don't ask me which puzzle. One line can be deduced.



Jankonyex' pattern



uses the same principle.
Last edited by chairman - 2006.12.08 01:14:36
Jankonyex
Kwon-Tom Obsessive
Puzzles: 5661
Best Total: 9m 35s
Posted - 2006.12.08 11:07:21
I use these very often and I explain them by counting using corner 2 propertis: "here"


Jankonyex
Kwon-Tom Obsessive
Puzzles: 5661
Best Total: 9m 35s
Posted - 2006.12.08 11:19:06
Quote:
Originally Posted by chairman


uses the same principle.
wall 121 with 3 ?
here
no, it should combine with this to have wall 121 with 3 effect:
chairman
Kwon-Tom Obsessive
Puzzles: 1397
Best Total: 17m 32s
Posted - 2006.12.08 13:59:04
Quote:
Originally Posted by jankonyex

no, it should combine with this to have wall 121 with 3 effect.

Even without the 1-2-1 wall, a line above the three can be deduced. You don't need the 'even number of entries into a region principle'. By the way, a 1-3-1 wall works as well!


Last edited by chairman - 2006.12.08 14:05:20
Jankonyex
Kwon-Tom Obsessive
Puzzles: 5661
Best Total: 9m 35s
Posted - 2006.12.08 14:04:26
havn't shared my patterns for a long time already, actually it's because my busyness...

if there're enough informations for counting, at least one line around the "3" can be deduced. (similar if that's "1" not "3")


that's why I stated that "2" is useful in counting "also here"


this is the basic of counting: (for more :"Puzzles sharing")


basic of counting combine with loopy rules : (at least one line can be deduced)



Let's play: (make sure you are familiar enough with counting, then you can do it within one minute)
solution are the little "?"s

Last edited by Jankonyex - 2006.12.09 07:29:56
Jankonyex
Kwon-Tom Obsessive
Puzzles: 5661
Best Total: 9m 35s
Posted - 2006.12.08 14:25:56
Quote:
Originally Posted by chairman
Quote:
Originally Posted by jankonyex

no, it should combine with this to have wall 121 with 3 effect.

Even without the 1-2-1 wall, a line above the three can be deduced. You don't need the 'even number of entries into a region principle'. By the way, a 1-3-1 wall works as well!
I'm not saying you're false,
I just state that in order to have the effect of wall 121 with 3:

i.e.

we combine the effect of:

i.e.

and:

i.e.


also, wall 121 with 3 don't need the 'even number of entries into a region principle'
...I've already confused many people here by using my poor english...
chairman
Kwon-Tom Obsessive
Puzzles: 1397
Best Total: 17m 32s
Posted - 2006.12.08 14:29:33
Quote:
Originally Posted by jankonyex
...make sure you are familiar enough with counting, then you can do it within one minute...

You are overestimating me! Here's another local puzzle: (2 lines and 3 crosses can be deduced)
Jankonyex
Kwon-Tom Obsessive
Puzzles: 5661
Best Total: 9m 35s
Posted - 2006.12.08 15:43:13
Quote:
Originally Posted by chairman
Quote:
Originally Posted by jankonyex
...make sure you are familiar enough with counting, then you can do it within one minute...

You are overestimating me! Here's another local puzzle: (2 lines and 3 crosses can be deduced)
3 lines and 3 crosses can be deduced.
chairman
Kwon-Tom Obsessive
Puzzles: 1397
Best Total: 17m 32s
Posted - 2006.12.08 15:49:36
You are right, I missed a line.

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